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		<title>The longest posts</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p class="wp-caption-text">Council Grounds, Salisbury</p>I just finished another long &#8216;post&#8217; &#8211; this one about Milton Road. The post will go onto the site when I&#8217;ve had a chance to read it through.</p> <p>It took a long-ish time to research 1, because I didn&#8217;t (and don&#8217;t) know much about either Milton or the Civil War.</p> <p>It took <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/the-longest-posts">The longest posts</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_1209" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Council-Grounds-Salisbury.JPG"><img src="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Council-Grounds-Salisbury-225x300.jpg" alt="Council Grounds, Salisbury" title="Council Grounds Salisbury" width="225" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1209" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Council Grounds, Salisbury</p></div>I just finished another long &#8216;post&#8217; &#8211; this one about Milton Road. The post will go onto the site when I&#8217;ve had a chance to read it through.</p>
<p>It took a long-ish time to research <sup><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/the-longest-posts#footnote_0_1204" id="identifier_0_1204" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="I&amp;#8217;m not sure whether my haphazard reading and googling should be dignified by the word &amp;#8216;research&amp;#8217;, but I can&amp;#8217;t think of anything else to call it">1</a></sup>, because I didn&#8217;t (and don&#8217;t) know much about either Milton or the Civil War.</p>
<p>It took quite a long time to write because it went through several versions&#8230;.. and because I tend to waffle on a bit!</p>
<p>Anyway, I thought I&#8217;d be interested to see what the longest posts are.</p>
<p>A bit of unix-y<sup><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/the-longest-posts#footnote_1_1204" id="identifier_1_1204" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Unix is an computer operating system">2</a></sup> stuff gave me the answer:<br />
<code><br />
 wc -w *| sort -nr<br />
</code></p>
<p>The longest posts are as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/pembroke-road-salisbury-and-pembroke-court-wilton" >Pembroke Road and Pembroke Court</a> (3191 words) &#8211; the longest by a couple of hundred words, largely because the Herbert family has such a long, well documented and sometimes interesting history. </li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/montgomery-gardens-salisbury" >Montgomery Gardens</a> (2967 words) &#8211; revisits the Pembrokes, but mostly about Montgomery of El Alamein, who could, and does, fill several books</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/old-sarum-business-park-salisbury" >Old Sarum Business Park</a> (2752 words) &#8211; I knew some of the history of the &#8216;old castle&#8217;, but I was surprised first by how much it spooked Pepys and others and second by the political venom it attracted as a rotten borough</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/moberly-road-salisbury" >Moberly Road</a> (2335 words) &#8211; the two Victorian ladies&#8217; ghost story is fascinating, as is the mountain of subsequent literature</li>
<li>Milton_Road_SP2.html (2207 words) &#8211; I&#8217;m struggling to understand much about Milton, but in this context it&#8217;s specifically how a man with the blood of an English king on his hands gets a road named after him.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/nelson-road-salisbury" >Nelson Road</a> (1923 words) &#8211; I decided no to precis a life of Nelson, but to discuss whether the almost adjoining Hamilton Road is a reference to Lady Hamilton. On balance, I think not.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/queen-alexandra-road-alexandra-close-alexandra-drive-salisbury" >Queen Alexandra Road, Alexandra Close and Alexandra Drive</a> (1400 words) &#8211; the post is mainly about why so many different things were named after her. There are, I&#8217;m afraid, the inevitable comparisons with Princess Diana.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/radnor-road-salisbury" >Radnor Road</a> (1207 words) &#8211; as much information as I could find on the internet about the Pleydell-Bouveries</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/newton-road-salisbury" >Newton Road</a> (1164) &#8211; I did a &#8216;timeline&#8217; style list of the events of Newton&#8217;s life.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/st-davids-close-sp1" >St Davids Close</a> (1103) &#8211; King David has a long and interesting life story. I was listening to podcasts about Churchill at the time when I was reading about King David. There are points of similarity &#8211; both writers, men of action in their youth and saviours of their nation in later life.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/neville-close-salisbury" >Neville Close</a> (1021) &#8211; Bishop Neville isn&#8217;t very interesting but I wrote about two of his relatives &#8211; the &#8216;Kingmaker&#8217;, and another possible &#8216;real Shakespeare&#8217;</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/netheravon-road-and-netheravon-close-salisbury" >Netheravon Road and Netheravon Close</a> (1008 words) &#8211; I can&#8217;t work out why it&#8217;s called Netheravon Road &#8211; it&#8217;s going the wrong way.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/st-nicholas-road-sp1-st-nicholas-close-sp2-nicholas-court-sp2" >St Nicholas Road, St Nicholas Close, Nicholas Court SP2</a> (1004 words) &#8211; the three Saint Nicholases all have good stories</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/st-margarets-close-sp1" >St Margarets Close</a> (978 words) &#8211; I barely scratched the surface of the literature on the Saint Margarets</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/queensberry-road-salisbur" >Queensberry Road</a> (976 words) &#8211; &#8216;Old Q&#8217; is one of the more colourful characters in the Salisbury A to Z. The later ninth Marquess of Queensberry was less impressive.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/petersfinger-road-milford" >Petersfinger Road, Milford</a> (940 words) &#8211; probably my favourite post. I grew up in Laverstock not knowing where the name Petersfinger comes from, I&#8217;ve not yet found it in any books, or on the internet, but I think a couple of unrelated items I found on Google have provided the answer.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/pullman-drive-salisbury" >Pullman Drive</a> (903 words) &#8211; Pullman was so hated his tomb was encased in concrete.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/old-george-mall-salisbury" >Old George Mall</a> &#8211; Cromwell, Pepys and Buddy Holly and the Crickets all stayed at the Old George Inn</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/mizmaze-hill-salisbury" >Mizmaze Hill</a> &#8211; I would love to know where the Mizmaze is.</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/st-christophers-close-sp1" >St Christophers Close</a> &#8211; another superstar saint</li>
<li><a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/radcliffe-road-salisbury" >Radcliffe Road</a> &#8211; I re-visited this post having stumbled across the derivation of all the road names in the area in an old W.I. booklet</li>
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<h4>Footnotes</h4><ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1204" class="footnote">I&#8217;m not sure whether my haphazard reading and googling should be dignified by the word &#8216;research&#8217;, but I can&#8217;t think of anything else to call it</li><li id="footnote_1_1204" class="footnote">Unix is an computer operating system</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>More Salisbury links</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recent posts &#8211; Montgomery <p>I finally finished another really long post. This one on Montgomery Gardens</p> <p>This took a long time to write because I decided to write about Lord Montgomery of El Alamein. I&#8217;m not sure whether the road is named after him or not, but he was an interesting character and a significant <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/more-salisbury-links">More Salisbury links</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Recent posts &#8211; Montgomery</h2>
<p>I finally finished another really long post. This one on <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/montgomery-gardens-salisbury">Montgomery Gardens</a></p>
<p>This took a long time to write because I decided to write about Lord Montgomery of El Alamein. I&#8217;m not sure whether the road is named after him or not, but he was an interesting character and a significant man.</p>
<p>I found an article written by a man who visited Montgomery in his retirement to show him how to play the football pool. I didn&#8217;t use it in my post, but I enjoyed reading it:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/99/a4077399.shtml">BBC &#8211; WW2 People&#8217;s War &#8211; World War 2 &#8211; Viscount Montgomery of Alamein.</a></li>
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<p>The next post will be about Montague Road in Harnham.</p>
<h2>A video of the tornado &#8216;over&#8217; Salisbury</h2>
<p>Further to the Salisbury Journal story about a tornado that I mentioned in a <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/meta/some-more-general-stuff">previous post</a>, a video has been uploaded to YouTube:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWEhQ8SbwVI">YouTube &#8211; Tornado Over Salisbury</a></li>
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<p>You can see part of the city with the tornado in the background, but I can&#8217;t quite place which part of Salisbury it is.</p>
<h2>Salisbury on the &#8216;English Buildings&#8217; blog</h2>
<p>I found an interesting website that covers buildings in England. The author covers less obvious buildings &#8211; and this is what he&#8217;s done in his three posts on Salisbury:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://englishbuildings.blogspot.com/2008/09/salisbury-wiltshire.html">English Buildings: Salisbury, Wiltshire post 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://englishbuildings.blogspot.com/2008/09/salisbury-wiltshire_06.html">English Buildings: Salisbury, Wiltshire post 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://englishbuildings.blogspot.com/2008/09/salisbury-wiltshire_08.html">English Buildings: Salisbury, Wiltshire post 3</a></li>
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<h2>David Starkey&#8217;s Henry VIII podcasts</h2>
<p>Finally, for now, I recommend the recordings of three lectures by David Starkey on King Henry VIII</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/whatson/downloads/files/podhenrymp3.xml">British Library Henry VIII Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
<p><b>Update:</b> I&#8217;ve since listened to the podcast on the same site by Philippa Gregory (author of &#8216;The Other Boleyn Girl&#8217;) &#8211; it&#8217;s also very good!</p>
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<b>Visiting Salisbury?</b><br /><br />
For accommodation, see the <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/hotels-in-salisbury">Hotels in Salisbury</a> page.
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		<title>Salisbury and Stonehenge &#8211; bits and pieces from the Web</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Some things I&#8217;ve found interesting on the web&#8230;.</p> Quid and Quidhampton <p>I&#8217;ve found a couple of references to the idea that the slang word for a pound, &#8216;quid&#8217;, is derived from the village &#8216;Quidhampton&#8217;. The theory goes that the paper mill at Quidhampton made paper which was then used for the bank notes.</p> <p>I don&#8217;t <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/salisbury-and-stonehenge-bits-and-pieces-from-the-web">Salisbury and Stonehenge &#8211; bits and pieces from the Web</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things I&#8217;ve found interesting on the web&#8230;.</p>
<h3>Quid and Quidhampton</h3>
<p>I&#8217;ve found a couple of references to the idea that the slang word for a pound, &#8216;quid&#8217;, is derived from the village &#8216;Quidhampton&#8217;. The theory goes that the paper mill at Quidhampton made paper which was then used for the bank notes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether this is likely to be true, but there are a number of references to it on the internet:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://plonkee.com/2007/07/31/british-money-slang/">british money slang | plonkee money</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=144&amp;article=62190">Expand your UK IQ: Quid | Stars and Stripes</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.etoro.net/currencies/get-a-load-of-the-pound-sterling-797.html">Get a load of the pound sterling</a></li>
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<p>From memory I think the name &#8216;Quidhampton&#8217; itself comes from a word &#8216;<i>ceod</i>&#8216; which means &#8216;dung&#8217;.</p>
<h3>Astronomy day</h3>
<p>There&#8217;s an astronomy event at Sixpenny Handley on the 22nd August:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.nebulosity.co.uk/images/Salisbury09/Salisbury_9.jpg">Public Astronomy Event</a></li>
</ul>
<h3>A blogger in Laverstock</h3>
<p>I&#8217;ve subscribed to a new-ish blog called &#8216;<a href="http://acrossthebourne.wordpress.com/">Across the Bourne</a>&#8216;, written by an American man who has moved to Laverstock. It&#8217;s interesting and nicely written.</p>
<h3>Salisbury and Stonehenge &#8211; &#8216;blacklisted&#8217; by Google?</h3>
<p>It <i>seems</i> that the salisburyandstonehenge.net website was &#8216;blacklisted&#8217; by Google for a week or so.</p>
<p>Reading a bunch of stuff on Google over the weekend, the most likely cause of this is probably that I had a couple of hundred links on the &#8216;sidebar&#8217; which appears on every page.</p>
<p>Google don&#8217;t like this &#8211; presumably sites with lots of links like this tend statistically to be &#8216;spammy&#8217; or low quality. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;ve replaced the list of Salisbury&#8217;s roads with the &#8216;road names beginning with the letter&#8230;&#8217; list that you should see in the sidebar now.</p>
<p>I then requested that Google reconsider. This can take months according to Google, but my position in the search pages was restored within days.</p>
<p>This is something of a relief. I enjoy writing the website pages, but it would be a bit demoralizing if I thought nobody would ever be able to find them.</p>
<p>Also, I have now got a couple of different photos indexed in Google. The newly indexed ones are pictures of the Red Lion and the White Hart, which are on the  <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/hotels-in-salisbury">Hotels in Salisbury</a> page.</p>
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		<title>Updates</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a slight departure for this website &#8211; I&#8217;m going to have a go at doing occasional more general posts.</p> <p>There&#8217;s a bunch of stuff that I thought I might usefully cover: </p> pointers to pages that I&#8217;ve updated where I&#8217;ve found the information the technical side of the website interesting bits of etymology <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/updates">Updates</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a slight departure for this website &#8211; I&#8217;m going to have a go at doing occasional more general posts.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a bunch of stuff that I thought I might usefully cover: </p>
<ul>
<li>pointers to pages that I&#8217;ve updated</li>
<li>where I&#8217;ve found the information</li>
<li>the technical side of the website</li>
<li>interesting bits of etymology</li>
<li>interesting bits about Salisbury that don&#8217;t necessarily relate to particular road names</li>
<li>general news about Salisbury and Stonehenge</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m going to aim to do this weekly, but I&#8217;ll see how it goes.</p>
<h2>What I&#8217;ve recently been &#8216;researching&#8217;</h2>
<p>Over the last couple of weeks the most significant bits of work have been on<br />
<a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/new-zealand-avenue-salisbury">New Zealand Avenue</a><br />
<a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/new-canal-salisburynew-canal-salisbury">New Canal</a><br />
Neville Close</p>
<p>Upcoming are a couple of puzzles:<br />
Nelson Road &#8211; in particular, its proximity to Hamilton Road<br />
Netheravon Road &#8211; it points in the wrong direction</p>
<h2>Recently updated pages</h2>
<p>I&#8217;ve re-written the entry for <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/saxon-road-sp2" onclick="">Saxon Road</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s named in reference to a Saxon burial site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated the entries for <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/romer-road-sp2" onclick="">Romer Road</a> and <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/radcliffe-road-salisbury" onclick="">Radcliffe Road, Salisbury</a>. I found some further information about both of these in an old booklet on the history of Harnham published by the Women&#8217;s Institute.</p>
<p>I embedded a map into the page for <a href="http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/streetnames/old-sarum-business-park-salisbury" onclick="">Old Sarum Business Park</a></p>
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